The couple is engaging in an important connective act, according to acclaimed psychotherapist Esther Perel, who specializes in human relationships.

Taylor Swift‘s appearance on Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce‘s podcast sent fans into a frenzy, and may have even changed the fate of it. The singer’s “New Heights” debut is continuing to garner attention and has racked up millions of views.

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce shared a behind-the-scenes look at their New Heights podcast episode with sweet moments and vocal warm-ups